CONTEST ANNOUNCEMENT— If you are a FAN you are automatically ENTERED in this contest.
We are giving away a 5 speaker inwall/ceiling Theater Kit!
Here’s the catch (it’s not a bad catch)….we will draw from our FANS when we hit 500 fans. This is where you come in, we need you to “Suggest to Friends” (it’s a link right …below our logo on the upper left) and then your friends need to “Suggest to Friends” until we hit the 500 mark.
We’ll be giving away one of these (your choice) kits.
We’ve done a little dabbling in importing stuff before with our speaker wall plates. But now we’ve really jumped in feet first with our own line of speakers!
Instead of importing like a lot of “standard brand name” manufacturers do…they’ll design a speaker that they want for a price point and send that “recipe” off to the factory in China/Tawain for them to add their “ingredients” (which may or may not be like the ingredients that we have here) make them and send them back over here to market.
We contacted a very reputable factory that already has established manufacturing capabilities and standards in place for quality and assurances. But we let THEM put together this formula for speakers from THEIR knowledge of which components/materials go together best with THEIR ingredients to come up with a great sounding speaker, smartly designed for the price points we were trying to hold down!
We have started out with 4 models that are the most popular sizes for Home Theater applications, upgraded background and outdoor use.
The M65C should be the best seller of the bunch as it can be used in all of the intended mentioned areas. It will work for a Theater setup, upgraded whole house audio locations and we speced in an aluminum grill so it will work outside as well.
This 8″ version of the ceiling speaker M80C will be a better sounding, higher volume whole house audio type speaker. If you like to vacuum with the music cranked up…this is for you.
The M65W is the standard 6 1/2″ wall styled speaker that will mostly go into Theater applications as front mains, but can also be used in all the other positions as well…center, rears or mid sides.
Our LCR speaker M525LCR is the best “technical” speaker of the bunch. It’s dual woofer configuration enables it to move the same about of air as a larger speaker as it’s on the same plate in close proximity, but by having smaller woofers, they’ll move FASTER so they will sound livelier at any volume level. This will sound best in Theater rooms for sure!
Hedging your purchases against inflation is the best value you can come up with in these times. Watch for most manufactured goods to go up more than 20% this year. Buy now and you save.
For example, copper prices in the last two years have just about doubled. We used to sell a basic grade of Monster Cable 16 gauge 2 conductor wire 500 feet for $99…this year about $200.
A lot of what we’re seeing right now is cutting corners to maintain price points. We’ve had to keep an eye on our suppliers shipping techniques as they cut back on quality of boxes and they’re using no packing material. We even had one supplier just use the manufacturer’s box as a shipping container. Needless to say we’ve had some problems policing this practice. UPS won’t allow a claim, so we put it back on the supplier. Making them responsible has pretty much stopped these practices…but the price is now going to rise!
So if you’re on the fence about a theater system or whole house audio package, don’t be worried that you’re doing the right thing now….go ahead and click away!
Here are some of our better packages right now:
JA Audio Theater Pack for a 5.1 system
JA Theater Kit
4 Room Whole House Complete Kit:
4 Room Whole House Kit
David,
Nope. None of the impedance matching versions out there will have a true off setting, where it totally disconnects from the circuit.
This is because the function of the impedance matching is that the whole circuit needs to remain constant. Meaning that the amp sees 8 ohms of impedance all the time. If one were to be taken out of the circuit, the impedance would change, going up in value, thereby all the other speakers would get more quiet. Which would be undesirable.
But I haven’t experienced that bleed thru with any of the volume controls at all. If you have your system properly initialized with most all of your volume controls set correctly, you shouldn’t hear anything when you turn one off.
Another option to avoid it completely would be to use a speaker selector as your impedance device and when you need to confidently turn off an area, use the button on the speaker selector. Speaker selectors take the leg completely out of the circuit. In this case, you’d use just regular volume controls with no impedance matching.
Brian Kruse
Installer
Inwall.com
On Jun 8, 2008, at 12:33 AM, xxxxx@msn.com wrote:
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David Yee
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Hi,
Can you tell me if the phoenix gold VSL125-RB volume control has a true OFF setting? If not is there one with a true OFF setting? I had heard that w/o this then there is a small amount of sound coming from the speakers even with the volume setting at the lowest?
thx,
David.
Jeff,
The best way to buy speakers on-line is to first get a baseline of what
type of material you like to listen to. Go out and listen to some
speakers and make a note of your observations and then record what they
are made out of.
You can listen to bookshelf types to determine this. Then you can make
a qualified decision online.
Material is BY FAR the most determining factor to your ears.
Brian Kruse
Installer
Inwall.com
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Bruce,
The larger of the two rooms could use 2 pairs in there. I’d suggest you
at least wire for two pair and maybe just cut in one set and see how it
sounds to be safe.
I always use the analogy of the mom and pop grocery store for coverage
issues. Many times in a small shop like that, there will be an
inexpensive stereo near the counter playing “ambient” music. If the
store is somewhat larger, they’ll turn it up so that it covers the whole
store. But what happens is in the front of the store, it’s really
quiet, and towards the back it’s too loud. They just need more speakers.
Same thing in a house setting.
See this for an article about pre-construction brackets:
http://www.inwallstore.com/kb_results.asp?ID=1
And a great bang for the buck type speaker that we have are these:
http://www.inwallstore.com/product_p/jac6aii.htm
These sound very good for the price.
Brian Kruse
Installer
Inwall.com
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Russell and Shannon,
First take a look at this page about pre-construction brackets:
http://www.inwallstore.com/kb_results.asp?ID=1
Then, if you’re looking for a system with a little more “oomph”, look at
this series from JA Audio called the Extreme Series:
http://www.inwallstore.com/product_p/exc80.htm
and this one for your theater:
http://www.inwallstore.com/product_p/exr6ttheater.htm
As for the rest of the system, consider this, we generally like to see
the theater area and whole house music areas on separate receivers. A
surround version for the theater and a basic stereo receiver for the
whole house stuff. Then, on the whole house audio systems, you’d want a
speaker selector matched for the number of speakers you’d expect to
have…like this one for higher power possibly:
http://www.inwallstore.com/product_p/ms8.htm
Then volume controls like these:
http://www.inwallstore.com/product_p/vc200d.htm
Hope that gets you started.
Brian Kruse
Installer
Inwall.com
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> I am building a new home and all the wiring for speakers is in the walls and ceilings. I need your help on selecting the speakers and volume controls. As Follows; (1) outdoor ceiling, (10) indoor ceiling, (2) inwall-3 1/2″ studs (6) volume controls. Home theater,(1) center,(2) front-1nwall, (2) back side-inwall, (1) ceiling-overhead. (6.1) I would like to put the mounting brackets in before the sheetrock in about three weeks. I have a budget of 3,000.00 (we like to crank the volume) Thanks Russell
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So you’ve got a couple of rooms where you think you might want to “crank it up”. During the design phase of your whole house audio project, you might want to wire for a subwoofer in those rooms. It’s simple if you think about it now…very cumbersome if you think about it later.
First, some background on the how. These days most subwoofers (you still need to check for this feature) will have both low level (RCA style connectors) and high level (speaker wire) inputs. Most of the time we use subwoofers in a “theater” style setup. Most of our receivers that we use have a subwoofer “pre-out” that is an RCA style connector.
In our case with a remote room needing a subwoofer, it isn’t practical to wire an RCA line all the way. This gives you some bad side effects. First, low level signals are very prone to picking up the 60Hz sound from our high voltage electrical wires…so we get that hum at the subwoofer. Second, the volume of the subwoofer won’t go up and down with the volume control on the wall in that remote room, as it is getting its signal from the receiver’s sub out…the main volume knob on the receiver is what will make the sub’s level adjust with the overall output.
So we use the speaker level inputs instead. The subwoofers that have the speaker level inputs take the speaker wires from the receiver first, extract the low frequencies needed by the subwoofer, then pass the rest to the output side of the subwoofer that goes up to the inwall/ceiling speakers.
Here’s how we do it.
When you wire your typical system, you’ll take the speaker wires from your speaker selector first to your remote volume control location, then on up to the speakers in that room.
When you want to add a subwoofer in that room (or just wire in case you want a sub in that room), start at the speaker selector to the volume control in the remote room, THEN to a location at floor level, THEN on up to the speakers in that room.
You’ll wire into a single gang low voltage ring or J-box. If you’re sure you’ll be wiring the subwoofer for use in that room, you can cut the wires for hookup later with a speaker wall plate. If you’re not sure and are just wiring for the future, you can just leave the wire uncut and loop a little in there leaving the whole line intact and put a blank cover plate over the opening.
David,
The difference in location is type of usage of the room. A social area
where you’ll be walking around and not really stuck in one place, will
like to have ceiling speakers, like kitchens, entry ways, dining rooms,
etc. Placement will just be balanced in the room, usually matching to
lighting fixtures. A place where you’ll typically be in one place
you’ll like wall speakers, study, offices, bedroom (while listening in
bed), theater rooms. These, you’ll set them at a “stereo image” and aim
them at your ears to give you that “sweet spot” of music stage.
The difference in size is two fold. You need more speakers for larger
areas for coverage. You need larger speakers for more volume. Think of
a dive deli store with a boom box playing by the counter trying to give
the place “ambiance”…you can hear it on the far end of the store, but
right near it, it’s blaring. They could use more speakers, not bigger.
You’ll need larger speakers if you like to listen to your music at
volumes that compete with a vacuum cleaner. Otherwise 6 1/2″ versions
will be fine.
Hope that gets you started.
Brian Kruse
Installer
Inwall.com
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